Talk:The New York Times Building/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: GhostRiver (talk · contribs) 05:00, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

I'll look at this tomorrow when I am more awake! — GhostRiver 05:00, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

Infobox and lede

• No comma after "It consists of the office tower"
  •  Removed Epicgenius (talk) 14:12, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

Site

• "to the west, 400 feet (120 m) on 40th Street to the south, and 400 feet on 41st Street to the north." → "to the west and 400 feet (120 m) both on 40th Street to the south and 41st Street to the north."
  •  Done Epicgenius (talk) 14:12, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

Design

• "and was developed by"
  •  Done Epicgenius (talk) 14:12, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
• Comma after "operated by Brookfield Properties" rather than parentheses around the next clause
  •  Done Epicgenius (talk) 14:12, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
• "about 42 percent" → "covering the remaining 42 percent"
  •  Done Epicgenius (talk) 14:12, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

Form and facade

• "a German manufacturer of sewer pipes" → "A German sewer pipe manufacturer"
  •  Done Epicgenius (talk) 14:12, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
• WL first instance of The New York Times (second paragraph of "Ceramic rods")
  •  Done I don't know how I missed that. Epicgenius (talk) 14:12, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

Structural features

• No commas around "and underneath the surrounding sidewalk"
  •  Removed Epicgenius (talk) 14:12, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
• "which increased in quality as the depth increased." → "which increased in quality at greater depths"
  •  Done Epicgenius (talk) 14:12, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

Mechanical features

• "forty percent" → "40 percent" per MOS:NUM
  •  Done Epicgenius (talk) 14:12, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
• "which can all be dimmed" → "all of which can be dimmed"
  •  Done Epicgenius (talk) 14:12, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
• "reduce energy consumption by about 13 percent"
  •  Done Epicgenius (talk) 14:12, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

Interior

• "also were placed" → "were also placed"
  •  Done Epicgenius (talk) 14:12, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
• The "'s" on "Times's" should not be italicized (second paragraph of "Base", second of "New York Times office unit")
  •  Done I fixed all of these. Epicgenius (talk) 14:12, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
• "Throught" → "Throughout"
  •  Done Oops. Epicgenius (talk) 14:12, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

History

Context

• Good

Development

• "As a result, the Gehry/Childs partnership withdrew its plan" → "As a result, he and Childs withdrew their plan"
  •  Done Epicgenius (talk) 14:12, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
• WL The Village Voice
  •  Done Epicgenius (talk) 14:12, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
• "Bond" in "Liberty bonds" is inconsistently capitalized in the "Funding" section
  •  Fixed Epicgenius (talk) 14:12, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
• "slightly hurt" → "slightly injured"
  •  Done Epicgenius (talk) 14:12, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

Construction

• Good

Usage

• "solar energy company"
  •  Done Epicgenius (talk) 14:12, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
• "W.P. Carey" → "W. P. Carey" in "2010s to present" per MOS:INITIALS
  •  Done Epicgenius (talk) 14:12, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

Critical reception

• "Times" in "speak to the Times" should be italicized per the source, where the word is underlined
  •  Done Epicgenius (talk) 14:12, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

References

• Would you look at that, this one only has 208 refs
  • Yeah...judging from the last few nominations you reviewed for me, Broadway theaters generally suffer from a case of "needing 200 or more references because there's too much information about them". Epicgenius (talk) 14:12, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
• Per MOS:ALLCAPS, "ANTIQUES" in [18] should be in title case
  •  Done Epicgenius (talk) 14:12, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
• Technically you shouldn't use the NY Post because they've fallen increasingly down the libel/conspiracy theory rabbit hole, but the information being cited is wholly noncontroversial, and they tend to be better about local stuff (I've used the Post for articles on former Yankees and Rangers)
  • Yeah. I use them solely for real estate transaction info, as they have a few good writers in that division. I'm referring to Steve Cuozzo, who unfortunately saw this article in a bad shape before I rewrote it, and Lois Weiss in particular.
    To clarify, Cuozzo's article said that the previous version of the page inaccurately mentioned "how many floors of the New York Times headquarters tower on Eighth Avenue are owned by the Times Co.? 'Floors 2-27', Wikipedia says. In fact, the Times sold all but seven of those floors to H.P. Carey & Co. four years ago." That has since been fixed, but Cuozzo was a bit wrong, there were 6 floors remaining after the Times sold them. Furthermore, this was before H. P. Carey's leaseback was terminated. Epicgenius (talk) 14:12, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

General comments

• Pictures obviously check out
• No stability concerns in the revision history
• Earwig bugged out about a complete non-issue; it's fine

That's all I've got! Putting on hold for now; as always, feel free to ping me with questions and let me know when you're finished! — GhostRiver 20:46, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

• @GhostRiver: Thanks again for the review. I have done all of these. By the way, if you really went through all the refs on this nomination as well, you have my greatest respect (though I still appreciate your review even if you haven't). Epicgenius (talk) 14:12, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
  • Great job, ready to pass! And yes, I really do go through every single reference. If nothing else, I am an academic, and going through other people's sources comes with the territory. — GhostRiver 14:54, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

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